Yeah, so I've been watching this back and forth and here's my 2 cents: Nall made a request: only download these tracks if you agree not to distribute them on a song-by-song basis. I understand his reasoning to be that when they are separated into songs with only the rare ones distributed, the songs become commodities -- little rare jewels that come with bragging rights. It's a bit undignified to some. That seems like a fair trade off -- he's not asking you not to listen to one song at a time, just not to share song-by-song -- and the reality is, while Nall can't stop you from doing it, if he sees it too persistently, he won't distribute any more sets. That sucks for all of us, particularly because that Absolute Kosher show was fucking awesome and I really want to hear more stuff -- an agreement not to share single songs seems like a small, small price to pay for continued access to a string of amazing stuff. It's kind of like the other string where people are bitching about not having easy and cheap access to the Get Lonely bonus tracks. But they're bonus tracks -- by definition they should be a challenge to get -- that's part of the fun. If you don't want to cough up the cash, find someone to trade with -- particularly because we are continuously inundated with all kinds of cool demos, live tracks -- not to mention studio albums like once a year or more. I'm still struggling to buy all the commercial stuff, while downloading live and demo stuff from here. And people are bitching about three tracks -- which for the record are commercially available -- seems a bit ungrateful. Anyways, my 2 cents.

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Wild Creature
Nall made a request: only download these tracks if you agree not to distribute them on a song-by-song basis. I understand his reasoning to be that when they are separated into songs with only the rare ones distributed, the songs become commodities -- little rare jewels that come with bragging rights. It's a bit undignified to some.

That's my feeling about the unshared shows, though. "Oh you've heard that, but I bet you haven't heard this? Wanna? Gotta trade." It can come across as a pissing contest which seems to be setting up a false hierarchy where there should be a true community, especially to newbies and to remote fans who get a show every few years/albums...

Conversely, I think the bragging rights disappear when the single track is shared. You only have to search this forum for evidence of the teasers. (Also, once you press play&record, isn't the song commodified?)

I used to be keen on sharing like for like, too, but there's always a concern that you send something to a guy on the far side of the world and then he doesn't send anything back. This has happened to me. Twice. With members of the tMG 'community'. Gotta have faith that one day...

Re: dignity - you didn't see me dancing last night!

Jp.



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Wild Creature
Nall made a request: only download these tracks if you agree not to distribute them on a song-by-song basis. I understand his reasoning to be that when they are separated into songs with only the rare ones distributed, the songs become commodities -- little rare jewels that come with bragging rights.

It's in no way about bragging rights -- everyone should hear Moon Song.

I'll prove it.

nall, not interested in false hierarchies.

wow - fuckin' right.

thanks, Nall!

the absolutely kosher set is for sure the most exhilarating live recording i have heard. thank you so much!

Let it never be said Nall isn't a good robot.

Nall is a golden god and above all else good people...thanks so so so much

life is too short to refrain from eating jam out of the jar.
life is too short to refrain from eating jam out of the jar.
and life is too short to wait around for you to come home tonight.
life is too short,
too short to do that.

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Wild Creature
Nall made a request: only download these tracks if you agree not to distribute them on a song-by-song basis. I understand his reasoning to be that when they are separated into songs with only the rare ones distributed, the songs become commodities -- little rare jewels that come with bragging rights.

It's in no way about bragging rights -- everyone should hear Moon Song.

I'll prove it.

nall, not interested in false hierarchies.

wow, this is a really great sounding show! thanks nall!

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it was actually 2 7"s btw and the mastering date was 5/1, I cancelled it this a.m.

This is why you should be nice to everyone.

Great Extra Glenns set, thanks!

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Great Extra Glenns set, thanks!

Can anyone give me the backstory to the Extra Glens? How it came about, how often they form up, etc.?

Can't find any such info either here or on the general web.

to nall.

you made me bow at my computer in your honor.

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nall
I'll prove it.

The actual date is 25th April, a Friday.

(Damn, why couldn't this be 8 days ago...)

Cheers Nall.

yeah this Extra Glenns recording is really great! thanks again!

Hey, wow! Thanks for the Extra Glenns set, it's great!

Nall, you spoil us.

Tons of thanks for you sir.

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The actual date is 25th April, a Friday.

(Damn, why couldn't this be 8 days ago...)

I actually have an iCal sub-calendar setup with tMG dates like the one to which you allude.

who recorded that set with Moon Song? was it you nall?

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who recorded that set with Moon Song? was it you nall?

that set is more old school than me. my guess is that it was PPH, but i am not at all certain of that. i know he used to record a lot of stuff.

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Song for Roger Marris, and there it is, but nah, I'll wait until I find the whole cbgb set



i have this song on a unkown 2cd live show its a great recording with other greats like doctor wu and shower.
but the first disc has a major skip on two tracks.

That's the CBGB show, NYC 7/23/99. Here it is, if anyone wants it. Like hatedeverysong said, its pretty great.

Pseudothyrum Song
Carmen Cicero
Song For An Old Friend
Alpha Incipiens
Song For Roger Maris
Raja Vocative
Shower
Quetzalcoatl Eats Plums
Alpha Desperation March
Born Ready
Doctor Wu (Steely Dan)
Maize Stalk Drinking Blood
Seed Song
Orange Ball Of Love
Minnesota
Going To Maryland
I've Got The Sex
I Corinthians 13:8-10
Orange Ball Of Hate
Chanson Du Bon Chose
(story about Heart)
Going to Georgia
Love Cuts the Strings
The Irony Engine (Franklin Bruno)
The Recognition Scene
Snow Crush Killing Scene
Nikki Oh Nikki
Going To Bogata



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hey thanks man i have been looking for that date for a long time i have done so many trades over the years i get them all mixed up so now i have quite the stack of unknowns building up.

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That's the CBGB show, NYC 7/23/99. Here it is, if anyone wants it. Like hatedeverysong said, its pretty great.

Pseudothyrum Song
Carmen Cicero
Song For An Old Friend
Alpha Incipiens
Song For Roger Maris
Raja Vocative
Shower
Quetzalcoatl Eats Plums
Alpha Desperation March
Born Ready
Doctor Wu (Steely Dan)
Maize Stalk Drinking Blood
Seed Song
Orange Ball Of Love
Minnesota
Going To Maryland
I've Got The Sex
I Corinthians 13:8-10
Orange Ball Of Hate
Chanson Du Bon Chose
(story about Heart)
Going to Georgia
Love Cuts the Strings
The Irony Engine (Franklin Bruno)
The Recognition Scene
Snow Crush Killing Scene
Nikki Oh Nikki
Going To Bogata

wow, thanks. I've never heard this. awesome!

So, I'd love to share the shows I horded off the hub, but where would I start?

I guess the best thing to do would be to post a list of all the tracks I have and let you choose for yourself.

yar.

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