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Essays on the Mountain Goats

Posted by Wild Creature 
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 02:25PM
Hi all, new to the forums so forgive me if this question is crass or has some strange taboo that would immediately strike me down or curse me or etc etc

Anyways, why has no one chosen Hail and Farewell Gothenburg? Seems very essay worthy B)
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 02:29PM
[quote="Wild Creature"]
[quote=AKMA]
[quote=Mithel]

[quote=fever]
Writing about Get Lonely might fucking kill me.
[/quote]

I hope you die.

[quote=shlack]
Lame "if it kills me" joke response
[/quote]

I hope you both die.
[/quote]

For better or worse, I'm pretty confident that not only will [i]they[/i] both die, but we [i]all[/i] will.[/quote]


not to get too analytic, but consider the following: through children, a couple can theoretically live forever, or at least live on past their own physical existence. so, to say "i hope you die, i hope we both die," the Alpha Male is refusing to have children, i.e., no children, thereby killing her off, and indeed killing both of them off, if they stay together, even without literally killing her, or himself. if you accept that, then you can say that the second line, "i hope we both die", is his way of saying, i hope we stay together forever. i will never agree to get pregnant with you, but i will also never leave you. i like this interpretation, because I am one of those who don't see tallahassee as a break-up album, but as a stay together forever (albeit perhaps in misery) album.[/quote]
Man, you all should have heard the excited noises I made reading this.

midgoat
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 04:11PM
SF - glad you liked the point!

meus spes -- as to Hail/Farewell, there is no good reason it's not been taken --thus, if you have an interest in writing an essay, do it! let me know.

also, it's been a couple of days since i've received any essays. I'd really like to keep the momentum going for a while, so if you have anything close to finished, finish it up and i will read it and post it once i get it.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 04:23PM
Meus Spes (+1 name), there is a strong and often vocal constituency here which tends to treat H&FG as something not to be discussed, in deference to JD's frustration at its premature distribution. That feeling may have abated, or the guardians of that particular portal may not have noticed your post, or... I dunno what else.

I try to tread lightly there, not seeking it out online and not taking it into consideration when I think of JD's catalogue. Others do as seems best to them — but it’s possible that your venturing in that direction would set off responses that you wouldn't anticipate if you weren't aware of the circumstances.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 04:29PM
AKMA has a point, although I'm not certain a critical essay would raise a fury, although i could be wrong. if there was such a fury, i'm not sure if i would post it or not. i guess we should see what sort of reaction the suggestion gets.

as one point, nall has the lyrics up on his site, and has i think for a long time. and JD has played a lot of those songs live. so, i think a critical essay might be okay. but welcome thoughts from the community, and would likely abide by any consensus.

on this note, however, i do not think i would publish an essay on song for my stepfather, as JD has been pretty adamant as to his thoughts on this song (even though I know it is on nall's site, and JD has played it live).
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 06:11PM
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Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 06:52PM
who is this caliclimber and why do i feel the happiness being sucked out of me when i read his post?
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 07:45PM
FFG is one of my favorite tMG albums, but other than one song (Minnesota, which I will not write about) it doesn't have the personal resonance.
Edit, damnit, it was HAFG you were talking about. Damn drunkenness. I'm going to go back to listening to Marilyn Manson now.

We belong dead.
http://www.last.fm/user/fever0000
http://sordidalley.blogspot.com/
http://popwreckoning.com/author/jwhitelaw/
http://blog.kexp.org/blog/author/jeffreywhitelaw/



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Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 07:57PM
[quote="meus spes"]
who is this caliclimber and why do i feel the happiness being sucked out of me when i read his post?[/quote]

i don't know why Cali's post is causing you unhappiness, as the way i read it he encouraged you to write the essay. i would be interested in it, as well.



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Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 09:07PM
I apologize. I have a habit of thinking that people are out to get me when they really aren't. Even when its blatantly obvious nothing of the sort is occurring.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 01, 2011 11:36PM
I think one could approach a HaFG essay as being about the context of that album and the connotations around it rather than being about the songs on it etc. It could be about artists' rights vs. fans' (perceived) rights and all of that. There's probably been many essays worth of writing about that subject on these forums but I'd read a well-written scholarly take on it.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 02, 2011 01:36AM
new essay up.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 02, 2011 02:34AM
I really like the Jack & Faye one. Captured most of what I feel about this album, in both a musical and a meta-musical sense. Props.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 02, 2011 08:34AM
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Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 06, 2011 07:18PM
new post, by the exceptional Jamison Murphy, on All Eternals Deck is now up on [url=http://www.sadyoungcardinals.com]Sad Young Cardinals[/url].

Check it out!
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 07, 2011 06:52PM
is there any way i can get in on this with an essay about Full Force Galesburg and The Coroner's Gambit?
By this I mean that it'd be one essay; I've been looking for an excuse to write about my theories concerning these two albums and the parallels I draw between em.
I'll probably just write it anyway but let me know if you think it'd go well on the site!

like a vision straight outta Holly Hobbie
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 07, 2011 07:04PM
sounds awesome. do it! would love to see your thoughts on the comparisons between the 2.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 07, 2011 07:28PM
Funny, the one I've been working on deals with tying together Coroner's Gambit and Get Lonely.

[i]We are the ones who don't slow down at all...[/i]
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 07, 2011 10:02PM
[quote=SaveMeASeat]
Funny, the one I've been working on deals with tying together Coroner's Gambit and Get Lonely.[/quote]

get that shit done, then, man! totally psyched to see how you treat it. now i just have to figure out how i'm going to do the art for an essay that deals with 2 different albums. if there's anybody out there who is good at photoshop and can mix 2 album cover arts into one, hit me up.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 08, 2011 03:16AM
[quote="Wild Creature"]
[quote=SaveMeASeat]
Funny, the one I've been working on deals with tying together Coroner's Gambit and Get Lonely.[/quote]

get that shit done, then, man! totally psyched to see how you treat it. now i just have to figure out how i'm going to do the art for an essay that deals with 2 different albums. if there's anybody out there who is good at photoshop and can mix 2 album cover arts into one, hit me up.[/quote]

I'll have a go this evening.

midgoat
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 08, 2011 11:43AM
Has "This Year" already been chosen? If not, I would like to give it a whirl.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 08, 2011 11:59AM
[quote=spyfromimperialchina]
Has "This Year" already been chosen? If not, I would like to give it a whirl.[/quote]

Sunset Tree has been chosen, but This Year has not, so go for it. Also, though I'd like to have essays on as many LPs/songs as possible, we are accepting multiple submissions on albums, singles, etc., so if there is one already taken but you feel strongly about it, go ahead and write something.
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 08, 2011 03:38PM
i sent you something wc, it's not much, and it does not have to be published if it is not up to snuff...but it's something i've wanted to do for 6 years.

man. it's 2011.



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Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 08, 2011 04:19PM
[quote=mike5998]
i sent you something wc, it's not much, and it does not have to be published if it is not up to snuff...but it's something i've wanted to do for 6 years.

man. it's 2011.[/quote]

i like it man. very different from anything anyone else has done, but that's you, and it fits in its own odd way. if you want to add anything, let me know. otherwise, i'm putting it up tonight, pretty much as-is....
Re: Essays on the Mountain Goats
September 08, 2011 04:36PM
hey all, by the way, i received a couple of awesome suggestions from people for combining the art for an essay comparing two albums, but I think i figured out a way to easily include both album artwork without compromising the look of the essay and keeping it looking clean. if this fails, however, i may be getting back to these people who offered assistance and pleading for their help.
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