Hail and Farewell So I hope I don't violate some unwritten rule here, but I'm going to go ahead and say it. This is the thread for anything concerning the lost album, "Hail and Farewell Gothenburg" John, I won't take it personally if this thread is quietly removed...and I'll also go ahead and say, this is not the place for "holy shit man, do you have it? can you send it to me? etc. etc" Seyrussly...none of that http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,321#msg-321 Fri, 24 May 2013 13:40:43 -0700 Phorum 5.2.18 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141821#msg-141821 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141821#msg-141821
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I love this new temple with its tourists and loving hippies and the gift shops and the police guards and the cleaners always mopping up the sick xxxxx
this is kind of beautiful.

dtrom4 = loving hippie
mike10k = ... well, maybe something like this:

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I love this new temple with its tourists and loving hippies and the gift shops and the police guards and the cleaners always mopping up the sick xxxxx
this is kind of beautiful.

dtrom4 = loving hippie]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 22 May 2013 12:16:54 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141819#msg-141819 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141819#msg-141819
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I love this new temple with its tourists and loving hippies and the gift shops and the police guards and the cleaners always mopping up the sick xxxxx
this is kind of beautiful.]]> dtrom4 Mountain Goats Wed, 22 May 2013 12:05:09 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141817#msg-141817 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141817#msg-141817 rikalbatros Mountain Goats Wed, 22 May 2013 11:26:37 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141816#msg-141816 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141816#msg-141816 rikalbatros Mountain Goats Wed, 22 May 2013 11:18:06 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141810#msg-141810 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,141810#msg-141810
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(and finally, I hope people won't think I'm fuming mad or anything - I'm not! shit happens, album's easy to find now. The forums I am personally hosting though? Not the place to request material that I didn't want released. I love everybody OK thx bye!)

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You know what, I'm in the wrong here. I was gonna try to avoid these forums and when I saw the album title I just sorta flew off the handle. I apologize, most of all to monkeyskull - I may have disagreements about this stuff but it's not really my place to get all aggro about it.

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the only grand deletion plan that'll ever be effective is the one I reembark on every time somebody mentions this so-called "album"

this was a great thread too.

a primer for why john no longer posts here.

remember the good ol' days?

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I simultaneously miss the old days on this forum and am also completely glad they are gone

me too. hail and farewell to them!]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 22 May 2013 10:46:18 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131722#msg-131722 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131722#msg-131722 dollabill Mountain Goats Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:06:10 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131709#msg-131709 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131709#msg-131709
really exciting.]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:43:31 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131694#msg-131694 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131694#msg-131694
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Death Poodle Improv may just be the worst album you ever wont hear.

i still want to hear this album, zisel.

nobody's around anymore.

I'll see what I can do. It may be lost forever.]]> zisel Mountain Goats Sun, 15 Apr 2012 21:02:20 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131382#msg-131382 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131382#msg-131382
besides being in shock and being devastated about John's feelings on this album right now, one thought i have is if he considers this material "garbage", what other amazing and never leaked works did he consider garbage and delete once the boneheadedness of those of us like monkeyskull showed up?

It's no one person's fault, but the fault of human nature. Monkeyskull was the "adam" who committed the original sin, but any one of us following him would have done the same thing. Like John has repeatedly said, this is the reality artists must cope with in the world we live in now.

i don't have an ear for music so it never registered these songs were sped up or at a higher tone than they should be. the thought had actually crossed my mind that these songs were "less low-fi" than so much of his other old work (pre-Tallahassee i consider old Goats; since then is the new Gost).

Since summer 2006 TMG has been tied for my favorite band ever (with Owen), and by listening to this album i have contributed to the wiping off the face of the planet TMG songs which (since admittedly i don't have an ear for music) i and the so many others like me probably would have loved.

what have i done?]]> ihasler Mountain Goats Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:57:41 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131330#msg-131330 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131330#msg-131330 shlack Mountain Goats Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:57:15 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131296#msg-131296 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131296#msg-131296 mike10k Mountain Goats Thu, 05 Apr 2012 08:34:32 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131282#msg-131282 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131282#msg-131282
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Perhaps his platform is Pro-Blizzatch, Anti-Arctica.

literally laughed out loud.]]> Wild Creature Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:48:34 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131281#msg-131281 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131281#msg-131281 shlack Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:40:48 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131280#msg-131280 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131280#msg-131280
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I'll endorse your campaign for King of Auntie-Arctica, Mike

don't you mean king of Blizzatch?]]> Wild Creature Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:05:25 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131279#msg-131279 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131279#msg-131279 shlack Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 19:53:47 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131269#msg-131269 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131269#msg-131269 Thanks Wild Creatue]]> thegreengecko Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:00:59 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131266#msg-131266 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131266#msg-131266
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Always finding. Always searching.





[www.urbandictionary.com]





U out

schlack, how did you make that link invisible in your post!

your username is just a misinterpretation of the word "shellac!"

which in turn is actually two words: lac being a yellowish resin secreted by the lac insect

shell being the "thin sheets of purified lac resin used for making varnish."

you have just been shlacked, buoy!

meet the new boss, same as the old boss, blizzatch!

i'm running for president of antarctica in november.

my platform will be to change the name of antarctica to blizzatch.

wouldn't that be cool; to change the name of a whole continent?]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:36:53 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131265#msg-131265 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131265#msg-131265
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when rhett butler asks a question that requires no answer is it a rhettorical question?

i think it is.

I do too.]]> Remy Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:36:30 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131264#msg-131264 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131264#msg-131264
rhetorical question.

on halloween, i like to say "spookie kooooookie".......

who am i?

non-rhetorical question.

when rhett butler asks a question that requires no answer is it a rhettorical question?

i think it is.

once, i asked a rhetorical question about some girl's pectorals.

she didn't appreciate my wordplay and so she smacked me much to my dismay.

i still think of her and that smack to this day. also, my favorite actress is doris day.

crime doesn't pay, beyotch!


how's that for off-topic!

SHE-IT]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:18:04 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131263#msg-131263 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131263#msg-131263











U out]]> shlack Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:07:14 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131259#msg-131259 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131259#msg-131259
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mike3000 Wrote:
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> the sun's not yellow, it's fucking meringue.
>
>
> see what i did there? i just rearranged all the
> letters in your statement.


Yeah, nice try. That's a blatant lie. Good effort, though! :)

schlack!

you better not have spent too much time finding me out!]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:26:47 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131258#msg-131258 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131258#msg-131258
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Death Poodle Improv may just be the worst album you ever wont hear.

i still want to hear this album, zisel.

nobody's around anymore.]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:26:12 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131256#msg-131256 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131256#msg-131256
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once you give birth, it doesn't matter if you like the kid or not, the kid's out there and beautiful regardless

i guess it's feasible you could give birth bunches of times at home and then you could just destroy them if you didn't think they should escape out into the world.

nobody would ever know about it.]]> mike10k Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:24:53 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131255#msg-131255 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131255#msg-131255
anyways, doesn't solve your conundrum, but that is how i first heard this album.]]> Wild Creature Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:41:14 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131254#msg-131254 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,131254#msg-131254 So I was looking on Spotify to find All Hail West Texas to listen to whilst I do work. (I have no money to buy music right now, so I'm living with Spotify for the time being) But that album isn't there so I was looking for it online and on the wikipedia site saw mention of 15 outtakes from the album which were supposed to be released free but weren't after Hail and Farewell Gothenburg, so I look up HaFG and download it (I have this irritating curiousity) and then I'm like, hang on, need to find out more about it so I'm reading most of this thread, and I'm going:
"Well, yeah, he didn't want people to hear it and now some have and some haven't, but he's now got rid of other ones which, in the future, people may have heard. Isn't that kind of unfair to the people who won't download or listen to it?"
Which I guess it is, but then all of that stuff is his music anyway, so whatever he does with it is what he wants, right?
But, then again, if everyone had followed what people said to the letter, we wouldn't have Kafka or Keats or Emily Dickinson or a bucket-load of other works to... um, work with. And the album won't be bad, so much, but it might not be very good either.
The thing is, I've lived so far without it. A very small amount of time I've lived with the knowledge of it. John Darnielle doesn't want people to download it, or listen to it. I'll feel like the most selfish person in the world if I listen to it after he's been so nice about it all. But is it selfish just to have it right now, and not listen to it until he gives it the okay? But he's not going to give it the okay, I know that, so essentially I'm just keeping it, raising the chances of me hearing it, making me (still) the most selfish person in the world. Ugh. This is horrible. I listened to Taboo VI, btw, because he seemed to be okay with that.
(And I still can't find a place I can listen to All Hail West Texas, so I guess I'll just have to save up for it.)]]> thegreengecko Mountain Goats Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:23:40 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80210#msg-80210 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80210#msg-80210 -------------------------------------------------------
> the sun's not yellow, it's fucking meringue.
>
>
> see what i did there? i just rearranged all the
> letters in your statement.


Yeah, nice try. That's a blatant lie. Good effort, though! :)]]> shlack Mountain Goats Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:14:47 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80174#msg-80174 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80174#msg-80174 weshallallbe Mountain Goats Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:04:29 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80161#msg-80161 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80161#msg-80161 -------------------------------------------------------
> Mike3000-where's the j?


in your a, weshallallbe.

i now pronounce you, burned.]]> mike3000 Mountain Goats Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:12:02 -0700 http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80159#msg-80159 Re: Hail and Farewell http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,321,80159#msg-80159
-weshallallbe...correcting the internet's mistakes since the beginning of time.]]> weshallallbe Mountain Goats Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:03:33 -0700